@piya
practices may be banned but as i said about girl being beaten up, people are still following it. there is also wide spread superstitious beliefs in hinduism which leaves the common man without a choice but to accept them. _________________ Link removed by admin, please see new rules
I am not scare to say that is wrong nonstopthinker.What is wrong is wrong always no matter to which religion ,cast people belong to.Beating women is not ok at all for such a reasons.
I know still there are people in our society who give extreme importance to racial purity and cast and their own traditions.This is changing slowly.My most of cousins have done inter cast marriages.My relatives are there living in UK,USA,Aus almost everyone there have married with white people there.
My bf is form TN state and i dont know to which cast he belongs.I never asked him.
For changing psyche of society takes time and i am happy to see its changing fast here. _________________ London bridge is falling down.
@jimbo & piya
well i can say that being a muslim and knowing about all the fundemental principles of islam, i dont think there is any "brainwashing" to fight. why do we view all the terrorists as muslims? just because they claim? i believe majority of this propaganda in the world today is due to biased Media which is in the hands of anti islamic forces. ofcourse there may be blacksheeps. but u cant say islam is bad bcus of them.
Majority terrorist are Islamic nonstopthinker.Its not media propaganda.Al jazeera channel is viable today everywhere so i dont think so media is in hands of anti Islamic forces.
Problem is that muslims are not accepting flaws in their own practices. I want to note it here that i havent used word religion.
There are some religious figures who are brainwashing people to fight against western countries.I know western countries have dont some mistakes especially in middle east regions but still these matter should be deal on country to country level and should not be taken at faith level.
Mixing religion and politics can create disaster of communal tensions.Especially in western countries where there are large muslim communities living side by side with white people. _________________ London bridge is falling down.
Its strange really to read piya say Majority terrorist are Islamic nonstopthinker.
In my Army days the terrorists who caused us the most problems were Christians in the shape of the IRA in Eire and Northwern Ireland who brough their terror to our shores also.
But they called themselves freedom fighters. They killed loads of innocent people as well and they are still on the go today although this would most likely be denied.
We are not talking about old days jimbo.
We are talking about presence.
Majority terrorist attacks today are caused by Islamic terrorist.
They were Christian by faith Jimbo but they sure did not threw bomb saying it is Crusade right?And other Christians did not support them simply because they were Christans.
Every conflict should be solve on country level,faith should not come in between. _________________ London bridge is falling down.
@piya
ok. so you throw me the bat and say hit me. lol
how can you ever ever call most terrorists muslims? you believe the biased media thats problem. al jazeera is not an islamic news channel if you must know. its owner are jewish. there are arguments that us govt paid them to air videos of osama which later proved fake. here in india most terrorists hindus. they brought down babri mosque and killed lakhs of innocent muslims in gujarat. _________________ Link removed by admin, please see new rules
hitler and mussolini together killed billions of innocent jews. rss and shiv sena activists killed thousands of innocent muslims and christians. are not they all terrorists? why are not they called christian terrorists or hindu terrorists? why? why this double standards against muslims? because media is controlled by anti islamic forces. but as the Quran says 'falsehood is by its nature bound to perish' thats y islam still is fastest growing. _________________ Link removed by admin, please see new rules
I dont know if owner is jewish.As far as i know its a Arabic channel which is seen in many countries now.
About babri masjid being indian you must know conflict very well nonstopthinker.Still whatever they did was wrong thing.
Gujrat rioting was dark chapter i agree . But it was began with burning many hindu alive in train.I am just trying to point out there are two sides to that conflict. _________________ London bridge is falling down.
@piya
do you know arabic? then why are you even trying to claim al jazeera is supporting islam? infact they air reports against islam only and one time even arabs got angry with them for spreading false news against islam. also read the post i made just before yours to get some more facts. my only appeal is this : kindly do not label all muslims as terrorists or all terrorists as muslims. understand the facts before generalising like that. _________________ Link removed by admin, please see new rules
Ok, if we arent going to get back to Jihad on this post I will lock it
All Muslims are not terrorists, and all terrorists, and not even the majority of terrorists are Muslims
And I reckon I know more about terrorism than you both put together
But this post asked what id Jihad, lets stick to that and that alone from here onm in on this post,
As rightly said Jihad means to strive or to struggle. If a student is striving to pass in exam that can also be jihad. What jihad means in islam, if anyone fights u muslims(the reason being religion) fight them back and do not turn your back. PIYA said the laws of sati(wife burning),infanticide and child marriage etc. Have been changed by india. If u call something divine revelation of god almighty than why it needs to be changed by humans. Thats means their is a problem with that religion. In my opinion the cause for terrorism are the politicians. Like bjp leader narendra modi did. Its all exposed in a sting operation by tehelka magazine. Piya also quoted no one fights in the name of hinduism, the malegoan bonb blasts in a mosque were done by hindus. Many times the rss party workers are found with bombs and its equipment. Some died when they were making bombs.. So the cause for terrorism are the politicians. You view all muslims as terrorist, well u i am not. Lol. If you why then all terrorist are muslims. It is not true. Their are many christian,hindus and jews terrorist.
In many threads i have said that these organizations should be ban infact they should go to jail.Violence under the name of god should be stop everywhere.
If there is conflict going on between Iraq and America,then it should be called war between America and Iraq and not crusade and jihad.
If they start calling it jihad what muslims in America and UK should do?To whom they ahould support?What these nations should do with these minorities?This will start religious wars everywhere in world.
I know what is concept of Jihad.I am not saying muslim countries should not defend themselves against America.They should defend themselves. _________________ London bridge is falling down.
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:00 am Post subject: Re: What actually is Jihad?
nonstopthinker wrote:
Many people have a misconception regarding the word Jihad. Jihad actually does not mean holy war. Jihad actually means 'to strive against ones own self'. there are various forms of Jihad which prophet Muhammed (P.B.U.H.) has told according to the situation. the best form of Jihad he said is to do da'wah i.e. to invite people to patience & perseverence. qital or holy war is just a form of Jihad which is to be used when people are suppressed.
I just remember what Prophet Muhammad (P.U.B.H) said after battle of Badar: "We just finished a little war ever and will facing a great war ".
Great war mean war against your bad desire
At this moment those people often misunderstand the term jihad, many say they like the Prophet Muhammad's jihad is war against the musryk, but if at the time of the Prophet Muhammad was not driven it will not be wars, because the Prophet SAW has a patient nature, full of love. whereas at this time should fight jihad themselves or fight our desires instead of where the bomb which, especially in their own country and the victims are people who are not armed, but never said that killing one person the same as killing the whole world, and they also need to doubt his faith, because faith has a lot of branches and one branch is to love his country. _________________ I like Morachat, because only by post we can get paid ... very nice, for anyone who wants to join, is guaranteed fun ..
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